Date: Sat,8 Feb 2003 00:28:33
From:
"mm" <mmali1168@yahoo.com>
Subject:
To: queries@akhbari.org
If all the answers are provided through website what will
happen is it
a challenge or just to create fitna in the society. If itis a challenge
then what will u do if u r convinced? what will be the benifits of
providing answers to u and after receiveing the ansers will u show it to
ur innocent followers who doesnt even now to open the web page.
regards
mmali
Date: Mon,10 Feb 2003
06:56:43
From:
queries@akhbari.org
Subject : Re:
To:
"mm" <mmali1168@yahoo.com>
Bismillah hir Rehman Nir Raheem
Aali Janaab M M Ali Saheb,
Salam Aleikum,
Received your emotional mail
without starting with Bismillah. Here are the answers:
1. If all the
answers are provided through website what > will happen?
Ans. If answers
are provided giving reference from Quran & Hadees then we will stand to be
corrected.
2. is it a challenge or just to create fitna in the society?
Ans. Ofcourse, this is our challenge in accordance with Saqlain tradition
given by Rasool(PBUH) If you think it's fitna then you're blaming
Rasool(PBUH). When your Mujtahid gave fatwe against shariath, against
Alian Wali Ullah and Khooni Matam, and if you were a true shia then it was
your duty to use this word 'fitna' for such mujhtahadeen. This is not an
advice but something to think about for yourself. When Hzt.Mukhtar(RA)
after taking Imam's consent went out to take revenge on qatilaane Imam
Hussain(AS) then dushmane Ali(AS) had used the same word (fitna) for him.
3.If it is a challenge then what will u do if u r convinced?
Ans. Momin
gets influenced and satisfied only with references from Quran and Hadees.
And, I will be thankful to you.
4. what will be the benifits of providing
answers to u
Ans. When you yourself are an Aalim & so knowledgeable then
you will be well aware of the benefits. Your asking such a question is
surprising!
5. after receiveing the ansers will u show it to ur innocent
followers who doesnt even now to open the web page.
Ans. First thing,
either you got carried away emotionally and wrote this or you havent gone
through the whole website because we clearly mentioned on the basis of
traditions of Rasool(PBUH) that akhbaris are followers of Imam-e-Zamana(AS)
and not our followers. Read our website carefully.
Sayings of Masoomeen(AS)
are to be read slowly and in detail and not hastily. This is the reason
that Mujtahideen made blind followers do blind Taqleed. Now for the second
part, 'ur innocent followers who doesnt even now to open the web page'.
This statement reflects your frustation and disappointments. How did you
get to know that they cannot open the webpage? Maazallah, has any wahi
descended upon you? We request you to first give answers to our questions
in the website by giving references from Quran & Hadees and prove
fallible (ghair-e-masoom) to be a mujtaheed and try to give atleast one
Hadees or Ayat from Quran supporting aql (intellect) and ijma which is
against Hadees-e-Saqlain.
Wassalam,
Al Abd-e-Aasi
Saele Babul Yaqeen
Syed
Waheed uddin Hyder Jaffery Akhbari
Date: 12 Feb 2003 09:30:52
From:
shia@Hussainyat.tk
Subject: Re:
To:
queries@akhbari.org
i am asim i like this site this is good
work by akhbaris iam not akhbari nor osooli. i am true shia but i
favourakhbari sect so fi u can add mylink atur site i will be obliged
www.hussainyat.tk thank Q
HUSSAINYAT.TK
ADMIN
Date:
14 Feb 2003 07:25:12
To:
shia@Hussainyat.tk
From: queries@akhbari.org
Bismillahir Rehmanir Raheem
Mr.Asim,
Salaam un alaikum
We are thankful to you for encouraging us and liking akhbari religion but
we are unable to understand your statement that you are neither an akhbari
nor a usooli but shia. There are many sects in shias who claim themselves
to be correct. Atleast, tell us in whose taqleed you are because for
Akhbaris taqleed is wajib(obligatory/compulsory).
Wassalaam
Mir Lukman
Ali. Akhbari-ul-maslak
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:11:19
From: ”Worldwide
Exchange Ltd(Mehdi Amersy)” <bureaudechange@btconnect.com> Subject: Some
questions for you to answer please
To: queries@akhbari.org
My
respected brothers
As
Salam Alaikum & Ya Ali Madad
Even
though i do not call my self Akhbari , neither am i usooli , but I totally
agree with you that Taqleed can only be done of Aimma (as) not of any
falliable mulla and that Ali un Wali ulla is an integral part of all acts
of worship including Azaan, Aqamah, Kalma Tashahud etc etc. but,
there are a few things which i need answers for
1)
How can we know if the Ahadith in Usool-e-Kafi, Man La Yahzar Al Faqeeh,
Furooh Al Kafi, Bihar ul Anwar etc are authentic or not and how do we how
do we separate Authentic Ahadith from weak ones ? I know we have to
compare it with Quran but how can an illiterate person like me who does
not know all the translation and Tafseer of Quran find out which ones are
weak and which ones are authentic ?
2)
About the newly developed matters like cloning, praying on a space station
up in the sky ( Away from the gravity of earth) , Praying and fasting
where there is sunlight 24 hrs and at places where sun does not come out
at all - How do we find answers regarding the above from the traditions of
Aimma (as).
3) I
also know that the process of Ijtehad in usooli terms started some time in
the 7th century hijri in shias but can you elaborate who was the first
person who proclaimed himself as Ayatullah and Maraja ?
4)
What would be your answer to people like Agha Behjud of Iran who has
claimed that he is in regular touch with Imam -e-Zamana (as) and that many
people have seen him speaking to someone's noor in the pulpit of a mosque
( When i quoted the last letter of imam-e-Zamana (as) negating such
contacts a mulla said that its not in agha behjuds hands when to meet Imam
(as) and Imam (as can meet anyone he wants at anytime ) -
5)
what are your views about Khums, Namaz-e-Eid, Namaz-e-Juma while Imam-e-zamana
(as) is in Ghaibat-e-Kubra ? Please provide answers in the light of
Ahadith and Quran
6)
What are your views about using the Titles Imam ( As used for Khomaini),
Ayatulalh , Naib-e-Imam, Hujjat Al Islam, Ayatullah al Uzma, Wali -e-Faqeeh,
Ulil Amr, Rasekhona Fil Ilm etc etc ? 7)
What would be the result of Using such titles for Marajas etc in the light
of Holy Ahadith ?
Im
sure the questions above would not be too difficult for you to answer as
you would have encountered similar questions many times.
Just
to let you know that i used to do taqleed of Agha seestani uptill a year
back but since i have read the book Kashaf ul Haqaiq by Syed Baqar Nisar
Zaidi of Karachi Pakistan i have entered the taqleed of Imam-e-Zamana (as)
and have changed many things in my life - I have also realised how the
Marajas fatwa goes against the Ahadith of Aimma (as) as i now have all the
books of Ahadith mentioned above and consult it if i want to know about
something. Are
you familiar with Kashaf ul Haqaiq ? What are your views about it ? are
there any flaws or mistakes in it ?
Please provide me the answers at your earliest-
Dua Go
Mehdi Hassan
London – UK
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003
09:03:55
From:
queries@akhbari.org
Subject: Re: Some
questions for you to answer please
To: Worldwide Exchange Ltd(Mehdi Amersy)” <bureaudechange@btconnect.com
Bismillahhirrahman nir raheem
Janab
Mehdi Hasan Sahab
Salamunalaikum,
Sincere
apologies for a late response. Please excuse us. I
have all the answers u asked ready, with
quotations from Quran & Ahadees. But let me ask u one thing
before i can mail u those.... Here,
whenever we file a case in Court we're asked to specify
Which Sect we belong to.....It is there In ''Mohammaden
Law'' that there are two sects in shia imamia
ithna ashari, namely , usooli & akhbari. This is only an
example to show u the significance of The sect you/I
belong to. So, please tell us which sect u belong
to before we can mail u those answers.
As for
Akhbari.. we are the ones who do Taqleed of
14Masoomeen(AS) ONLY. ''Khabr'' is singular meaning ''Hadees"",
Akhbari is its plural...followers of akhbar
are Akhbari. Like we live in Hyderabad hence we can be
called as Hyderabadi. Distinguishing ourselves for
what we are is important.
Will be
waiting for your reply.
Khudahafiz,
Mir Lukman Ali Akhbari-ul-maslak
Date:
Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:22:01
From: ” Worldwide
Exchange Ltd (Mehdi Amersy)” <bureaudechange@btconnect.com> Subject: Some
questions for you to answer please
To:
queries@akhbari.org
was
salam
Brother
Mir Lukman Ali
Iam
somewhere in the middle of the two Akhbari'ism and Usooli'ism. I can surely
say im a shia and a follower of Ahlul Bait (as) and can also confirm that i
only consider the Ahadith of Aimma and Quran (as) as Hujjat for me ( I
left taqleed 2 years back ) and now consider all these so called marajas as
enemies of Ahlul Bait (as).
Yes i
used to be an Usooli but not anymore - Ok let
me except - i do not know much about Akhbari's but i have heard that Akhbari
believe that Quran has been Changed ( Im sure its a mere
propaganda and is
far away from truth as Quran is a Miracle in it self and God
Almighty has promised to keep it safe till Qayamat ).
Date:
Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:16:09
From:
queries@akhbari.org
Subject: Some
questions for you to answer please
To:
Worldwide Exchange Ltd(Mehdi Amersy)” <bureaudechange@btconnect.com
Dear
Mr.Mehdi Amersy,
Salam
Alaikum
Do you
read/understand urdu? this is only to know if you do
we will reply in urdu with references from
Quran-e-Majeed. This will save our time.
Khuda
Hafiz
Regards,
M
Lukman Ali Akhbari-ul-Maslak
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:20:35
From: ” Worldwide
Exchange Ltd (Mehdi Amersy)” <bureaudechange@btconnect.com> Subject: Some
questions for you to answer please
To: queries@akhbari.org
Was
salam brother Luqman
Yes i
can read and understand Urdu.
Khuda
Hafiz
Mehdi
Amersy
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:20:35
From
queries@akhbari.org
Subject: Some
questions for you to answer please
To:
Worldwide Exchange Ltd(Mehdi Amersy)” <bureaudechange@btconnect.com
Bismillahhirrahman nir raheem
Janab
Mehdi Hasan Sahab
asalamunalaikum,
Relief
to Know that u read & understand urdu, as
translating Tafseers from Quran-e-Majid was time
consuming and causing delay in reply.
Coming
to your mail, let us tell u that In Akhbari Sect Taqleed
is wajib, but whose? This is clearly mentioned in the
''Introduction'' link of our website,
www.Akhbari.com , from where u can also know the
complete details about Akhbari Sect.
Let me
make this clear to you that Akhbari's do believe
in ''Tahreef-e-Quran''.....this is mentioned in the
differences between usooli & akhbari sect link of our
said website. Our belief is supported by & in
accordance with Quran-e-Majeed & Ahadees. Below we are giving
u references from Quran , you can also see it
yourself as we are giving you the complete details.
References from Quran -e- Majeed, tarjuma by Moulana Maqbool
Ahmed Sahab (RA).
1.
Page
No.372 Ayat 108 Tafseer 2
"Walaqad
aatayna......fiha'' :- Kaafi mein Janab Imam
Md.Baquer(AS) se manqool hai ke un logoun ne aisa hi
ekhtelaaf kiya tha jaisa ke us ummat ne kitabe khuda mein
ekhtelaaf kiya hai. aur jiswaqt Qayam Aale Md(AS) us
quran ko lekar aayenge jo unke paas hai to usmey bhi
aisa hi ekhtelaaf karenge. yahantak ke un mein se baaz
aadmi uska qataii inkar kardenge. aur un Hazratke hukm
se sab se pehle unhi ki gardan kaati jayegi.
2. page
103 Ayat 123 Tafseer 4
''Waantum
Azzillato'' Tafseer-e-Khumi o
Tafseer-e-Ayashi mein Janab Imam Jafere Sadiq(AS) se
manqhool hai ke jis haal mein Janab-e-Rasoole
Khuda(SW) un mein moujood the woh log hargiz zaleel na the.
balke yeh ayat is tarah naazil hui thi ''waantum zoufaaa''.
Tafseer Ayashi mein unhi hazrat se manqool hai ke
abubaseer ne yeh ayat un Hazrat(AS) ke saamne padhi
to un Hazrat(AS) ne farmaya ke tehar jaa khuda ne is
tarah naazil nahi farmaya hai balke woh yun nazzil
hui hai'' waantum qaleelun'' . Aur ek riwayat mein
yeh hai ke un Hazrat(AS) ne farmaya ke
khuda-e-taala ne kabhi apne Rasool(SW) ko zaleel nahi kiya.
aur yeh ayat is tarah naazil hui hai ''waantum
qaleelun''. Masoomeen(AS) ki kaee hadeesoun mein warid hua hai
ke mujahadeen-e-badr ki tadaad 313 thi.
3.
page
802 Ayat 9 Tafseer 1 [jild 2]
''Qul
ma kunto...bekum'' Tafseer-e-burhan mein janab Imam
Md.Baquer(AS) ki hadeska ek hissa manqool hai ke
Anhazrat(SW)par jab koi hukm nazil hota, uspar amal
farmaate iske baad aur hukm aajata phir uspar amal farmate
aur usi ka apne ashaab aur apni umat ko hukm farmate
to log arz karte ke Ya Rasool Allah(SW) aap hamein
ek cheez ka hukm dete hain aur jab hum uskeaadi
hojaate hain aur us par achchi tarah amal karne lagte
hain to aap doosra hukm de dete hain.
Aanhazrat(SW) us ke jawab mein khamoosh rahe yahan tak ke
Khuda-e-taala ne yeh ayat nazil farmayi. usi tafseer
mein Janab Imam Md.Baquer(AS) aur Janab Imam
J.Sadiq(AS) se manqool hai ke jab Aanhazrat(SW) par yeh
ayat nazil hui ''qul ma kuntum....'' jis ka matlab jihad
ke natayej se mutaaleq tha to khuraish ne yeh kaha ke
hum us Nabi ki pairwi kis birte par karein jisko
yahi khabar nahi ke uske saath kya mamla kiya jaayega
aur hamare saath kya maamla kiya jaayega. ispar
Khudae taala ne yeh ayat nazil farmayi ''inna fatehna
laka fathan mubeenan'' beshak hum ne fateh ki tumhare
liye ek khuli fateh neez unhi Hazrat(AS) se manqool
hai ke in attebaoo illa ma youha ileya ka asl nuzool
yun hua tha inat tabeoo illa ma uha ileya fi Aliyin
yaani Ali(AS) ke baare mein jo wahi meri taraf ki
jaati hai mein usi ki pairawi karta hoon.
4.
page
850 Ayat 38 Tafseer 4 Sura-e-Rehman
''Fayomaiz......''
....Tafseere khumi mein hai ke yeh ayat
tum (shiyon) se mutaleqh hai aur matlab iska yeh hai ke
jo shaqs Janab Amirul Momeneen(AS) se tawalla rakhe
aur unke dushmanoun se tabarra aur allah par imaan
laaye aur uske halaal ko halaal jaane aur uske haram
ko haram samjhe phir gunahoun ka muratakab ho aur
duniya mein touba na kare to khudae taala usko un
gunahoun ke aewaz aalame barzaq mein azaab dega magar qayamat
ke din (apni khabar se)woh istarah niklega ke uske
zimme koi gunah na hoga jis ke mutalekh us se us din
baazparaski jaye. Basharate shia mein hai ke maisara
kehte hain ke main ne Janabe Imame Raza(AS) ko yeh
farmate suna ke tum mein se do bhi jahannum mein na
dikhaai denge nahi wallahe balke ek bhi nahi. main ne arz
ki ke yeh baat kitabe khuda mein bhi hai kya? pas
Hazrat(AS) ne ek sal tak jawab na diya. maisara kehte
hai ke saal bhar baad ek din main Hazrat(AS) ke saath
tawaf mein tha ke yakaek farmaya aye maisara, mujhe
teri falaan sawaal ke jawab dene ki ijazath aaj milihai.
mein ne arz ki achcha Huzoor(AS) woh mukhaam
Quran-e-majeed mein kahan hai? farmaya Surae Rehman mein
hai aur woh khudae taala ka yeh qoul hai ''fayoumaezin
yusalo an zanbehi minkum ins o wala jaan''
main ne arz ki is jagah minkum to nahi hai. farmaya
pehli ayat jis mein ibne uday(Usman Bin Uffan) ne
taghayyur kiya yehi hai aur woh khud uspar aur uske saare
hawaqahoun par hujjat hai isliye ke agar is mei minkum
na ho to uske yeh maana huey ke azabe khuda tamaam
maqlooqe khuda se saqit hogaya. yaani us soorat mein
zahiri ayat ke maanoun ke bamoujoob us din na kisi
insan se uske gunahoun ki babat bazpuras hogi aur na kisi
jin se. jab bazpuras hi na hogi to khudae taala
kisi ko azaab bhi na dega.
5.
Page
857 Ayat 79 Tafseer 1 Surae Waqiya
''la
yamasahu...'' ... Tahzeeb ul ehkam mein Janb Imam Moosiye
Kazim(AS) se manqool hai ke mushaf ko napaak honeki
halat mein na chuhwa jaaye aur janb honeki halat
mein na chuhwa jaye aur na latkaya jaye ke uski dori
chuhwi jaye aur na uske aur mutaleqhaat. isliye ke
khuda farmata hai ''la tamasahu...'' ...
ehtejaaje tabresi mein hai ke jab umar abubakr ki taraf
se khaleefa banaya gaya to us ne Janabe Amir(AS) se
darqhaast ki ke woh Hazrat(AS) apna quran-e-majeed awaam
un naas ko de dein taake un logoun mein jo quran raaej
tha us se milakar dekh len. un Hazrat(AS) se
guftagoo in lafzoun mein ki '' aye Abulhasan(AS) agar aap
munasib jaaney to woh quran le aayein jo abubakar ke
saamne laye the taake hum sab ka uspar ijtemaa ho jaaye''
. Hazrat(AS) ne farmaya: Afsos ab uske milne ka
tumhare liye koi mouqha nahi hai. Abubakar ke paas usko is
liye laya tha ke tum par hujjat hojaaye aur tum
qayamat ke din yeh na keh sako ke tum is se
bekhabar the. na yeh keh sako ke aap usey hamare paas laye na
the. warna jo quran-e-majeed mere paas hai usey to
siwaye mutaharoun ke yaani ausiya ke jo meri aulad se
honge aur koi chooh bhi nahi sakta. Umar ne kaha aaya us
ke izhaar ka koi waqt bhi muyyaan hai?
Hazrat(AS) ne farmaya : haan, maloom hai jab meri aulad
mein se Qayam Aale Md(AS) qayam honge woh usko zahir
bhi karenge aur sab logoun ko usi par chalayenge aur
tamaam qawaid qawaneen usi ke mutabiqh jaari honge.
Khala
Rasool (SW):- meri ummat 73 firqhoun mein taqseem
hojaayegi sirf ek firqha naaji hoga. Agar
Surae Rehman ki ayat se tehreef ko qubool na karein
to qabahat yeh paida hojayegi ke sab firqhe naaji
ho jayenge aur qoule Khatami Martabat(SW) ko rad karna
padega.
Will be
waiting for your reply.
Khudahafiz.
Duago
Saele
Babul Yaqeen
Syed Wahid
uddin Hyder Jaffery
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:59:16
From: “syed_hameed14@hotmail.com<ruhsam2002@hotmail.com>
Subject: a very good site for halalis
To:
saelebabulyaqeen@akhbari.org
asalam alai kum
this
is an akhbari and saw akhbari .com a very good site for halalis. may 14
masoomeen help u in bringing this site up. pray that i die on rahey haq
that is very important
khudahafiz.
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003
07:44:20
From:
saelebabulyaqeen@akhbari.org
Subject: Re: a very good site for halalis
To:
“syed_hameed14@hotmail.com<ruhsam2002@hotmail.com>
Bismillahir Rehmanir Raheem
Mr.Syed
Hameed,
Salam un alaikum wa Rehmatullahi wa Barakatahu.
Qala Rasool(SA) "Ya Ali(AS) La Yuhabboka Illa Waladil Halaal Wa La
Yabghazoka Illa Waladil Haraam" in accordance with this Hadees when i read
your letter I felt like meeting of two real brothers who were separated
for a long time.
We are passing through such turbulant times that even if one Momin having
similar faith meets, it's a cause for celebration. I pray to God that
batufael-e-chahrda Masomeen(AS) that yours, mine and all those who are
true shias should leave this world with true imaan.
Wassalaam
Saelebabulyaqeen
Syed Waheeduddin Hyder Jaffery Akhbari
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:40:04
From: “mir hussain”<talk_to_me_hyd@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: my thinking
To:
saelebabulyaqeen@akhbari.org
-
to my thinking
-
my name is saleem
-
tell me about ZAIDI
is also Usooli. If know give me the detail about all.
-
And you have some
parts,detail of all.
-
explanation of (ITHNA)
ISHNA).is it right or wrong (ithna & ishna
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:39:38
From:
saelebabulyaqeen@akhbari.org
Subject: Re: my thinking
To: ” mir hussain”<talk_to_me_hyd@yahoo.co.in>
Bismillah Hir Rahman Nir Raheem
Salaamun Alaikum,
Janab Mir Hussain Sahab,
Ithna or Isna ashari both can be used, they being pronouns. Our website is
for discussing about Akhbari Religion, please go through it you will know
the difference between Akhbari & Usooli.
Khudahafiz
Saele Babul Yaqeen
Syed Waheed uddin Hyder Jaffery Akhbari
Inshallah, this link Will be updated on
regular basis.....keep visiting
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